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Doctor Who

The Doctor looks and seems human. He's handsome, witty, and could be mistaken for just another man in the street. But the Doctor is a Time Lord: a 900 year old alien with 2 hearts, part of a gifted civilization who mastered time travel. The Doctor saves planets for a living - more of a hobby actually, and he's very, very good at it. He's saved us from alien menaces and evil from before time began - but just who is he?

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1x01 Rose
aired Mar 26, 2005

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Jos
Jos (Sep 13, 2014)

@emonquente I'm with you on a lot of the story stuff, but please don't say it's been getting lighting and camera wrong. That's just really really crazy.

emonquente
emonquente (Sep 07, 2014)

Another solid episode, a 3.5, and the preview for next time has actually got me a bit excited. I'm loving the next Doctor. Reminds me a bit of the 7th, I'm getting the feeling he's going to settle in to this and next season might be a proper badass.

I'm over being angry about the premier. Almost. . .. it -was- really, really bad after all.

emonquente
emonquente (Aug 31, 2014)

First Dalek episode of the 2005 show -- "You would be a good Dalek" -- Only truly works once . .. per show. . . .

This episode was . . . solid. And I do like the the new Doctor, for all the reasons I thought. Again, this Dalek episode than I expected, just like last time, but a little better than last time actually. Except. . .the end.

SPOILERS:

There's just only so many times I can watch the Daleks almost be saved, and then...poof, can't do that because we need them for later, forever, because .. . screw continuity and all that (The 7th wiped them out, I don't care how they play it, the 7th ended this crap, end of story.)

Side note, I read several reviews after that last line to see if anyone could pinpoint anything I wanted to touch on for why exactly this episode is just, fine. Because really bad and really good are easily explained but middling is hard -- seems either the internet is devoid of critics and only has summarists (given my experience in uni, I bet on the latter), or else, this episode was rather middling for everyone and they just summarized instead (equally possible). Which makes me wonder at all the 4 and 5 stars. It's a solid 3 -- worth watching, but nothing special at all about it. And it needed to be spectacular to make up for that abysmal start. Tho . . .it might've actually felt better if hadn't come after such...ugh. The first episode of Who I ever truly -hated- .

Also. . . 50/50 on whether the Heaven thing will pan out. I got an idea where they'll go based on what they've done in the past -- much as I did going into this episode, when there was, in fact, a brief moment so convincing I actually thought they'd cast off the same damn plot they've done 30 times and do it anew . .. only for them not to. So, I figure I'm probably in the ball-park here, which is. .. disappointing in a way, but I'm not so sure I'd want them to take it further.

Know what would be cool tho? Bringing back the Guardians for this. The good ole days.

kenneththepage
kenneththepage (Aug 25, 2014)

peace out i give up on hoping this show will ever have a decent episode let me know when moffat quits, because peter and jenna are great

emonquente
emonquente (Aug 24, 2014)

fyi -- this is how you do banter, odd .. Doctor Talk. . . and insane stories.

Also camera-work, lighting, editing, and essentially everything this show has been getting wrong since the Ponds have gone (and a bit before then)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStWeeEVQAc

Also, see part 2 for how to do flirting right, as well as characterization thru. . well, everything. Every word, pace, movement, expression, breath and flit of the eye dammit. AND added bonus, flirting with oneself, 500 ingenuity points for...whoever wrote this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXy-dMJ-gkw

Wait just a moment. . . who wrote these . .. No bleeding. . .Moffat wrote these? WTF!?!?

Dear God man, what. . .what HAPPENED to you!?

emonquente
emonquente (Aug 24, 2014)

I'm liking the face, voice, demeanor, possible personality (minus the bad representations of it) and dress of the 12th Doctor so far.

Here's hoping that this series can make up for the last one (one and a half? 7 is basically 7 and 8 so I get confused because it ran for over a year and then had over a year without a new series)

emonquente
emonquente (Aug 24, 2014)

And a hell. . .ALL THAT! AND yet another friggin' Dalek episode comes next!

Lookit, maybe I take this show too seriously, I admit that -- but I have spent sooo soo sooo much time watching all these seasons that . . .if it were jsut mediocre maybe I could forgive that, but this is patently, unredeemably just. . .bad. It has none of the charm of other bad episodes in the serieses, old or new, and is the most manic of them all. It is trying so, so hard to awkward, mad, funny, and important, all at once, offering nothing tangible of any of those things because it doesn't know who to do one at a freaking time!

Moffat doesn't just need to leave. He needs to be sacked.

emonquente
emonquente (Aug 24, 2014)

The second to last scene (before the minute or so wrap-up) was the sole well-paced, well shot, well edited, well scripted, and well acted moment of the entire episode. Executed as well as it could have done, and gave us a reminder that Clara and the Doctor are, essentially, people after-all. And hints at what kind of person the Doctor is. Not (only) this Doctor, but the Doctor himself.

Why the hell is the Doctor 2000 now anyway. I knew Christmas was long, and from when he was 1200 in Town Called Mercy was prolly a while, but how the hell did the Doctor go from 1st - died like 300? 2nd - Must've been nearing 700 3rd - died between 750 and 800 4-6th died before 900 7th- died before 1000 given the probably significance of the diary 8th - haven't read the book 9th - 900 again.... 10th- died like 907 11th- apparantly died at "over 2000" .. . .

Life expectancy went a bit nanners here. Particularly since the 1st Doctor regenerated due to Old age...and was the one that got to start out as a child. Also, rmeember what the 10th Doctor looke dlike 900 years into his regeneration due to the Master's ...thing? Friggin Golum!!

I periodically decide this inconsistency bothers me >.> Bad episodes make it worse.

They give plenty of forshadowing we are FINALLY getting a Doctor that understands he, essentially has a responsibility to kill -- and then no satisfaction.

We get a stand-off with the baddy that draws parralels and has brief moments of what, in other than Moffats completely inept hands might've been brilliance, that (like another scene early on) decides to have the inspirational and unbelieveably important bits happen off-screen for...hell knows why.

We get a friggin runtime nearing 90 minutes, which is MORE than enough to cover everything this episode needed to (starting by cutting that dinosaur that adds nothing, nothing at all the baddy couldn't have served to offer, and takes up way too much time)

emonquente
emonquente (Aug 24, 2014)

Sonuva..... I'm gonna have to re-watch all the 11th Doctor's stuff again to really get a handle on where I feel this kick to the new series falls...so, so flat. . .

I think it mostly comes down to character. A good bit of the run-time was sacrificed on the alter of character . . . and all fell flat.

Lizard lady and her wife. . . What the hell happened there? These were very good characters, in very small doses, but for this extended view of them they took out literally everything human, emotional, sensible, or believable. They refer to their marriage ironically, there's no emotion in the acting, most scenes are just flat-out missing half the dialogue that ought have been there, the attempts at comedy are bad, the audio cues make it worse by calling attention to it being meant to be comedy and not sheer awkwardness. Stryx or whatever the spelling, is usually funny, they went overboard here by a lot, and the repetition made it worse, not better. And Clara. . .Clara has been in far, far too fast-paced episodes (that, yet, dragged because all lingering seems to be in the wrong places) to have a real character other than "Clever, flirty, quirky for the sake of quirky, egotistical" -- all these came out here, in the msot stereotyped and annoying ways possible.

The dinner scene. . .if it were a bit slower . . . was the only thing that came close to working.

The dinosaur was irrelevant. The people's (non)reaction pitiful, the forshadowing tired, the -constant- reminder they were just ripping off the Madame Pompadour episode (which was the same basic plot, done better), when, if the episode handled better, it could have been the self-reference joke they were going for.

The sonic. SCRAP THE F*%!@#((%* SONIC!!! NEW DOCTOR YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT!!! I put up with it for 3 doctors. It was -appropriate- for the 10th ("'oesn't maim doesn't kill, et cetera') it was perfect . .. for this new doctor, it will be silly and a maguffin - mark my words.

and. .. .continued

kenneththepage
kenneththepage (Jul 17, 2014)

@emonquente (sorry for not replying sooner i forgot about this) honestly it's very simple: the convoluted mess, the blatant cheats, the poor choices in events that I often find myself finding better alternatives for, the terrible pacing and most of all the ridiculous and pointless lines and scenes. a solid 60% of the christmas special and 50th anniversary were entirely unnecessary, another 30% was done poorly, and maybe 10% was enjoyable (only the regeneration in the case of the christmas episode). it comes down to be groaning at virtually every minute of an episode, and becoming irritated at what happens because its stupid or makes no sense. Smith is fantastic but the plot and tone of the episodes are just bland and painful to watch

rorypondicus
rorypondicus (Jun 30, 2014)

not watching until moffat leaves

truedestiny
truedestiny (May 24, 2014)

Tried to watch this show. Couldn't go further after 4 eps. It just sucks overall and is way too childish.

emonquente
emonquente (Jan 16, 2014)

@kenneththepage See, that's where I get confused tho. What, as far as you saw, were some of the points that were just bad storytelling?

I see a convoluted mess, with some blatant cheats thrown in. I see a show about time-travel that, in playing with that idea too much, has (inevitably) left itself open to, at the least, the existence of alternative narratives that make as much, or more, sense as the one chosen -- and I see some pretty gnarly pacing issues. That said, I'm missing where the storytelling is bad.

Truly, and please forgive me if I seem to be baiting, I am curious what exactly it is that is, in conservative terms, turning people off the show recently. Particularly as I get further from the awe of first watching the 2005 show and come to love the 9th Doctor even more, find I cannot bear the repeats of the 10th Doctor save a simple few (most involving Donna, who I originally did not like) even tho I still love Tennant's portrayal, and become more and more impressed with both Smith AND his episodes.

Then again. . . I LOVED the 10th Doctor the first time through (except the two-parter with The Master, it was rubbish, and that's not the Master, and I hate it) and took some serious warming-up-to in order to appreciate Smith. The only opinion I've had about the show that remained through several repeats was of the 1st series. I still love Eccleson as the Doctor, think Rose was solid (and my favourite, tho not, admittedly, the best) companion, find the writing solid and at times even impressive - and even find the . . . visuals of the thing as a whole really (often cheap, silly, hard to buy at all) . . . rather quaint, in a good way.

But I ramble - as I said initially, I am actually interesting in your view on things, always fun to see things from different angles.

kenneththepage
kenneththepage (Jan 15, 2014)

@emonquente i dont mind change, i mind a disintegration of writing quality. doctor who is just plain bad storytelling lately, at least for me.

NadTV
NadTV (Jan 15, 2014)

@emonquente i don't see a problem in changing, but in how it changes.

emonquente
emonquente (Jan 06, 2014)

The Christmas special had some. . .problems -- that said, I'm starting to just shrug off any concerns of continuity, a cohesive universe, and blah blah blah.

As it has been since LAST christmas' special, Doctor Who is an entirely different show than it has ever been, it really feels like they really just want to pump up the stakes, over and over again, and give those huge pay-off moments of tying together intricate time-travel-naseua-inducing-loop-the-loops.

What am I trying to say exactly. . . .

The old days of "Here's a space and time, let's have some fun!" are dead. Doctor Who is long since been "Tales from our universe" and is now "The Legend of the Doctor."

And that's all right -- I like the new about as well as the old in the end, pros and cons to either and really. . .I dunno. Doctor Who is something that really might be around forever tho, so I guess change is a good thing, the Doctor himself usually thinks so at any rate.

I liked this episode quite a lot, for all its faults and . . . bravado?

kenneththepage
kenneththepage (Jan 03, 2014)

@NadTV yea, he seems to think he can do whatever he wants with the show, regularly ignoring the very few rules doctor who even has. ill never stop watching but im always waiting for the day moffat leaves...

Nephatiu
Nephatiu (Jan 03, 2014)

@NadTV Strange, I don't remember setting it to 'watched', but there it is...
I think I'm getting early Alzheimer's or something... :p

NadTV
NadTV (Dec 31, 2013)

@Nephatiu it's there, the 7x00 specials.

NadTV
NadTV (Dec 31, 2013)

@kenneththepage agree with ya! and, once again, I'm really tired of Moffat's god complex.

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  • Premiered Mar 26, 2005
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