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New prequel episode out, and I'm totally lost. What was that all about...?

@emonquente @Cursed thank you both (also thanks Cursed for replying in English haha ;) )

@emieldonckels what cursed said. The 11th doctor is a very different beast.

@emieldonckels Its not for everybody. Even the biggest doctor Who fan has to admit there are some real stinkers in between the gems. If u are really stuck you can try to start watching the fifth season because its sort of a reboot with a different style of episodes (more continuity and character building). I just recommend you watch S3E10 and S4E8-9 these are not only brilliant episodes they are also needed for the fifth season. Goodluck!

@emonquente I want to ask you a question because you seem to be an avid Whovian. Am I wrong when I say that the first three seasons of this show are horribly written with repetitive plots per episode? I tried my best to get into this show but I am so sick and tired of seeing the same damn plot every episode. I really liked the first episode of s03 because the new companion finally showed some character. This was quickly lost in the next few episodes. Does this show ever get on the level of plot and character development as, let's say, a Breaking Bad, or maybe something like Fringe? I am just so tired of seeing people sacrifice themselves for no apparent reason. "Don't shoot them, it doesn't work!" BANGBANGBANG *character gets killed* "sigh". Is this show just not for me? Or do I need to stick with it?

Matt Smith confirmed for leaving after Christmas special, I might die.

@emonquente To be honest, when I watched it I wasn't sober either. So I'll re-watch it sober as well. But I think you're probably right about what made it great and all that. I'll get back on this when I've watched it a second time.

Whovians == BBC is doing 50th anniversary retrospectives with an old serial for the doctor. This week was the 5th, so there are two left to catch.

I just got BBC America a few days ago or I would have said sooner.

@emonquente I re-watched it sober and, I think you are right, it was the coming together of several seasons and the pretty pink bow -- but, all the same, I do believe the episode itself was pretty good -- and after so damned many years if not knowing the Doctor's name before this second veritable "screw you" to finding out --- I must say that it is a very, very good episode on its own. I know you can't actually, but try to view it with fresh eyes, or at least view it with drunk eyes (saying this after I have watched it sobre) this was an absolutely fantastic episode in any right -- I do realize it lacked any sort of development or story for the newcomer -- but for old hats of any kind, even (perhaps especially) New Whovians -- this was a great episode. Though, I must admit, the last few minutes, the actor introduction, they were the best part. That part alone makes it my favourite New Who episode ever, and top 5 episode ever period -- quite simply because we get to see something that I have always wondered ---the new actor should show us with the introduction he got. I look forward to the next seaon, which will be what really shows what it does in the test of time.

As I said initially, it is hardly even worth watching twice as it is ---- but for those who know the story, especially the old Doctor --- it stands a cut above the rest anyhow for sheer plot advancement. That plot advancement itself was so worthwhile that it excuses any shortcomings in the episode as a stand-alone (which Doctor Who, as a serial back in the day, was never meant to be able to do)

I loved the latest episode, but surely it wasn't the greatest ever? It was all leading towards this episode for three seasons, it's not the episode that's amazing, it's the coming together of all the things Moffat created in the storyline that leaded up to this point.

Again, really loved latest episode, but not the best I've ever seen.

Holy. . .just. . .I mean. . . .explicatives galore.

Best doctor Who episode freaking EVAR. Oddly enough, one likely not worth watching twice, but still, best episode EVER!!!! And I've seen (or heard in some cases) every single freaking one of the thousand or so that are out there, and let's be clear. We are LITERALLY at a thousand or so folks, the original series has 840 if I recall properly. And I've seen every single one and this was the best ever, bar none.l Not even the death of the third doctor, which was my prior favourite.

They took the 13th, they took the 8th, they took a FANTASTIc actor to introduce, and they made it beyond awesome. Moffat, you are fantastic. I thought the Face of Bo was kinda clever but this, this. .. just . . . dear great good gods mate. Bloody brilliant.

And now we wait for November. . . .Just. . .Freaking November? REALLY? GRRR!!!! I want it now! I want to continue right this very minute!!!!

*coughs* pardon, but, just watch -- if you've been with it nearly as long as I have, just. . .wow. . . .

Matt Smith confirmed for season 8, deal with it nerds!

@Artifex Yeah -- I never liked the Cybermen -- even from the first time they ever appeared (though they were just...goofy back then). Just hoping this one is good.

For what it is worth, I think I hate the Daleks and the Cybermen for the exact same reason. The argument that pure logic turns people into monsters was interesting the first few times it was investigated -- particularly when the origin of the Daleks episode used it to make a very cogent argument about the faults of the Nazi regime but, that was something like 30 years ago, the entire thing is just trite by this point.

Oh and don't get me started on the ghost shift thing -- when the Torchwood lady cried and the creators said it was her freaking love of queen and country -- rather than the cold and monstrous devotion she actual had. Which, for that matter, would have at least made the argument that it takes a monster to best a monster and . .yeah -- when I heard what the creators meant for that scene to be about I jsut *grumbles*.

What was I on about? Oh yeah, maybe this one will be good. Ha ha

@emonquente I haven't seen the old Doctor Who, I guess that really changes your perspective on the show. Now that you mention it, 10th's specials were pretty bad indeed. Just really different from the regular episodes. I can easily rewatch most of them more than twice though. Not quite so with Supernatural indeed. The over-arching plot is good the first time, because you don't know what's going to happen, but after you know the ending, a lot of episodes that add to the story-arch are just quite boring the second time around. Supernatural is one of the only shows of which I really enjoy the fillers, by the way. Which is saying something (although I'm not really sure what exactly).

Your theory about Clara sounds plausible, I guess time will tell eventually. And really? Cybermen episode again? I like them, but it's almost always the same story, and the last one is still fresh in my memory.

@Artifex By the way mate, about the 10th Doctor, I've found out myself at least one reason not to like the 10th Doctor.

I don't like most of his episodes. And I do mean don't. You see, I did, the first time or two through, but I just can't re-watch them like I can old Who or the 9th or even chunks (but not all) of the 11th.

I enjoyed them all once through -- but the specials were a special kind of bad (barring his introductory Christmas special) and just lots of them are boring or fraught with tension I just can't care about once it's been done through once. Kinda reminds me of Supernatural in a way -- I loved the ride the first time through, but there are only a few episodes I can watch twice -- though the reason for Supernatural is the oftentimes painful over-arching plot, the coupling reason of a relative lack of light-hearted filler episodes does show.

Also, I don't like the doctor lady companion, Donna was fine (good in fact) once I got used to her, but I never liked M..M...whatever her name was. And I HATED what they did with the Master. HATE. Hate. . .

The 10th Doctor himself on the other hand. . . I'd call him my Third Favourite with 9 in first and 4 in second.

@josbeir ooo. . . Man, that's like hearing about Jackson wanting in really.

I could see it going well, if I got used to it -- might be nice to have an old doctor again, and a woman to boot. Always wanted to see at least one woman Doctor.

I wish I knew about her as an actor though. Only ever seen her in Harry Potter and she was more or less invisible in that, to me anyhow -- I do seem to be more or less alone on that one.

@az25 Peej does Dalek?

Umm . .. that could go just about any way imaginable really. I dunno how to feel about that if it were to happen. I don't think it'd go totally balls up though so if they do let him we'll just have to see.

@Artifex There's been a lot of talk on it mate -- my personal theory has been and still is that they've bit off a bit more than they can comfortably chew with making Clara interesting -- which is cool on the one hand, but totally not necessary on the other -- would have been fine as a governess from Victorian London without the rest. Still, with the rest I can imagine the apy-off should offset the awkwardness the last few episodes had.

that said, this week's episode was brilliant. I needed a funny Doctor Who, I've really missed funny Doctor Who. Even the moments the Doctor ought have got all morbid and gloomy were done with a lighter touch and it was great.

Next week is gonna be Cybermen...again. . . God I hate those things. But, This season's Dalek episode was quite comfortably in the top 3 Dalek episodes ever. Maybe this cybermen episode will be the same, Clara was the best part of the Dalek episode -- though they obviously can't do the same thing to make this one great as the last. Well, they had bloddy well better not anyway.

Ok, what's going on? I still like this show, but the last few episodes were great, but at the same time they seemed to lack that special element that makes doctor who great, but I can't put my finger on it...